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« Reply #45 on: September 12, 2010, 07:45:55 AM »

from my P-824 topic:
my models are not for contest, to take into the hand and turn in every direction, their goal is to be pleasant for me on a shelf, or on a single picture
Well, here I may confess the bad side of this huge LO-1 model, finished for the view side so completely finished for me, stop!
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« Reply #46 on: September 16, 2010, 03:59:53 PM »

It's bad luck to cancel a T-Tail, mon ami.
Shame on me... I apologize, I had to repair... I have used an old metal P-38 that was given to me, already built, and I have moved the tailplane. Please don't send me to Hell evil , I have repaired my fault somehow, not on the big 1/32 white bird but on a 1/100 blue bird. Blink
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« Reply #47 on: September 16, 2010, 10:42:10 PM »

I like that  Thumbs Up
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« Reply #48 on: September 17, 2010, 01:29:09 AM »

It's bad luck to cancel a T-Tail, mon ami.
Shame on me... I apologize, I had to repair... I have used an old metal P-38 that was given to me, already built, and I have moved the tailplane. Please don't send me to Hell evil , I have repaired my fault somehow, not on the big 1/32 white bird but on a 1/100 blue bird. Blink

Well, maybe not Hades but to Purgatory with you, blasphemer!   ;-)   Looks good, Monsieur. 
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« Reply #49 on: September 28, 2010, 12:07:18 AM »

You are a mentalist capable to read my mind.
I am not as original as I believe.
I always have thought that putting in high position the horizontal tail surfaces, the space to turn is more short.
Do You belive something similar? Blink



 
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« Reply #50 on: September 28, 2010, 03:04:13 AM »

Well, for me, changing parts position is just intended to be funny or at least uncommon, enriching families of derivatives. I am glad when there is some technical "good reason" to do so, but I don't require it. For the T-tail story and advantages, do you know the book about its inventor Charles de Rougé? by my publisher "La Plume du Temps", alas all in French sorry. Including several drawings of mine. The main advantage is that the tailplane is more efficient, being free from the vortex made by the wing, if I remember well.

I am not as original as I believe.
The same for me: before having Internet, model-magazines turned me wrong, thinking I was the only unrealist modeller in the World... Angry cheesy
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« Reply #51 on: September 28, 2010, 08:20:53 PM »

Well, for me, changing parts position is just intended to be funny or at least uncommon, enriching families of derivatives. I am glad when there is some technical "good reason" to do so, but I don't require it. For the T-tail story and advantages, do you know the book about its inventor Charles de Rougé? by my publisher "La Plume du Temps", alas all in French sorry. Including several drawings of mine. The main advantage is that the tailplane is more efficient, being free from the vortex made by the wing, if I remember well.

I am not as original as I believe.
The same for me: before having Internet, model-magazines turned me wrong, thinking I was the only unrealist modeller in the World... Angry cheesy

 I am very interesting in the "T" tail, I think the Whirldwind and the Hawkwer Seahawk have two examples that how I like the tails.
Sometimes I wonder how will be a P-38 with a tail like the Bronco... and a turbine engine....and modern radar....some sidewinders...jajajaja

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« Reply #52 on: September 29, 2010, 02:54:15 AM »

Dear Pablo, I let you dream of Sidewinder weapons, while I am a naive pacifist... For the rest, almost all the possible Lightnings have been considered on my what-if P-38 web-site http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/#Sit - in french sorry but you may translate it in another language with Yahoo BabelFish or Google Translate. Any other addition would be welcome! (words are enough, I would draw according to my usual angle).
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« Reply #53 on: September 29, 2010, 12:51:08 PM »

Dear Pablo, I let you dream of Sidewinder weapons, while I am a naive pacifist... For the rest, almost all the possible Lightnings have been considered on my what-if P-38 web-site http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/#Sit - in french sorry but you may translate it in another language with Yahoo BabelFish or Google Translate. Any other addition would be welcome! (words are enough, I would draw according to my usual angle).

I am a naive pacifist also, I only use the armament to locate temporally the planes in a historic period of time. By other hand the tecnic french is easy to read for my, because I buy the " La fane de l'aviation" revue during years, and read the french lenguage. After to see your treatise over the P-38, my eyes are closed to his posibilities, limited, missing over the bauty and posibilities of this plane. Thumbs Up Bow Bow
Thanks for open our minds. Bow
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« Reply #54 on: November 09, 2010, 10:49:21 AM »

I am very interesting in the "T" tail, I think the Whirldwind and the Hawkwer Seahawk have two examples that how I like the tails.
Sometimes I wonder how will be a P-38 with a tail like the Bronco... and a turbine engine....and modern radar....some sidewinders...jajajaja

A Pi-Tail P-38 would definitely be a neat thing to do in photoshop form... turbine engines of course, you're right... and even with bubble canopy to boot... I think I'll give it a go some time soon...  Thumbs Up
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« Reply #55 on: November 09, 2010, 11:23:25 AM »

Please do it someday, Stargazer! Thumbs Up
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« Reply #56 on: November 09, 2010, 09:24:24 PM »





I am very interesting in the "T" tail, I think the Whirldwind and the Hawkwer Seahawk have two examples that how I like the tails.
Sometimes I wonder how will be a P-38 with a tail like the Bronco... and a turbine engine....and modern radar....some sidewinders...jajajaja

A Pi-Tail P-38 would definitely be a neat thing to do in photoshop form... turbine engines of course, you're right... and even with bubble canopy to boot... I think I'll give it a go some time soon...  Thumbs Up



Think in the P-38 with the tail of the Bronco and turbine with the F-18  nose.
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