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« Reply #30 on: September 09, 2006, 01:32:59 PM »

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- the Grumman-Fairey/Glenn-Tophe Gyrodyneye E-2R
from http://www.whatifmodelers.com/forum//index...?showtopic=7569
Thanks to Glenn's topic http://www.whatifmodelers.com/forum//index...showtopic=11996 and to http://avia.russian.ee/helicopters_eng/fai...rotodyne-r.html I add my vision of a jet-less-rotor Rotodyne based on the Gyrodyne: with torque and asymmetry to counter-balance…

and twin-fin is almost twin-tail...
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« Reply #31 on: September 09, 2006, 02:06:21 PM »

Further in the same asymmetric direction: do you know the forefather of the asymmetric Fairey Gyrodyne? The answer is the twin-engine Blohm und Voss Bv 141H, helicopter version of the famous plane - this factory drawing stands as a "proof"...:
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« Reply #32 on: September 09, 2006, 04:05:27 PM »

Thanks to Jennings, I have included in the Modified Airliners Photographs web-site several fake photographs of mine (done with Corel Photo-Paint):
- (Twin-B757 with) asymmetric 3-engined B757: http://www.cardatabase.net/modifiedairline...php?id=00007632
- Asymmetric 1-engined 737: http://www.cardatabase.net/modifiedairline...php?id=00007658
- Asymmetric 1-engined A330: http://www.cardatabase.net/modifiedairline...php?id=00007639
- EDIT: Asymmetric 5-engined A340:
http://www.cardatabase.net/modifiedairline...php?id=00008128
- I have failed to reach Anthony Jackson to get the written authorisation required by the MAP procedure, otherwise I would have included also this asymmetric 6-engined A340:

with this explanation: "Europe-USA-Asia-Europe liner, with asymmetrical thrust to counteract lateral trade winds southward…"
Edit: this 3?-engined A318, made by a Jonathan, seems also asymmetric: http://www.cardatabase.net/modifiedairline...php?id=00007441 and the 3-engined B777 made by Darren Ang is asymmetric too: http://www.cardatabase.net/modifiedairline...php?id=00006720
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« Reply #33 on: September 09, 2006, 06:20:07 PM »

You did those! I allways told you that you where better than me, and you proved me correct!  Tongue

Now heres my humble addition to this post, 1 assimetric F-111, and 3 other variations of it.



The first is an assymetric twin. The second is a delta wing. Third is a recon-non sweep wing. Last is a UAV.
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« Reply #34 on: September 09, 2006, 06:25:11 PM »

I like your glider A330.
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« Reply #35 on: September 16, 2006, 04:28:23 PM »

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I have included in the Modified Airliners Photographs web-site several fake photographs of mine (done with Corel Photo-Paint):
Additions of mine, mixing symmetric sources with few engines and symmetric fakes with extra engines:
- Asymmetric 3-engined King Air: http://www.cardatabase.net/modifiedairline...php?id=00007679
- Assymetric 7-engined A380 : http://www.cardatabase.net/modifiedairline...php?id=00007678
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« Reply #36 on: September 16, 2006, 04:31:47 PM »

I could have said that the Focke-Wulf team was feeling sorry because their symmetric Fw 189A was less popular (even if twin-boom! Sad ) than the asymmetric Bv 141 (not twin-boom! angry ), featuring a better lateral view, so they designed an asymmetric version of the Fw 189. Smiley
I won't say that because this is sadly true Sad  (is it?) and I am a what-ifer preferring dreams evil … So let me imagine that the Focke-Wulf team added to their twin-engine Fw 189A a glider (Segelflugzeug) Fw 189S, and mixing both they built the single-engine asymmetric (Asymmetrisch) Fw 189A-S or As…

(thanks to http://richard.ferriere.free.fr/3vues/fw189a1_3v.jpg )
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« Reply #37 on: September 16, 2006, 04:55:03 PM »

The Su 12 is often presented (in our West) as a copy of the Fw 189. Indeed, in parallel to the Fw 189As, there was a Su 12As (Cy 12Ac in Cyrillic)…
Which one came first? the Fw 189, because it crossed my mind before…

(thanks to http://www.suchoj.com/bis1949/Su-12%20(RK)...-12_(RK)_02.jpg )
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« Reply #38 on: November 13, 2006, 06:36:03 PM »

Instead of a twin-engined Whirlwind tugging a Smoothwind glider, let us marry them together, side by side, into a twin-engined twin-tail TwinWind…
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« Reply #39 on: December 06, 2006, 04:51:47 AM »

I am sad Sad : the Modified Airliner Photographs website refused my An-124 for "low quality". I present below a half size picture of it, with also a twin version (special for this twin-plane topic here). The comment I proposed was "With all turbofans rotating in the same direction, some anti-torque device was needed…" Rejected, alas Sad .
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« Reply #40 on: December 06, 2006, 09:42:03 PM »

Tophe, try making the center wing section look even, and remove that V, it might allow it to enter? Blank off one cockpit? I dont think they want people to submit 50 pictures each day, by only copying and pasting in paint...
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« Reply #41 on: December 07, 2006, 06:02:18 PM »

Sorry for my unperfect English... my words were misleading it seems. I explain again:
1/ I made the asymmetric 5-engined (single-fuselage) An124 from the symmetric 4-engined An124, about 800 pixels wide from the full source
2/ I posted it to the M.A.P. website
3/ It was refused for low quality (not enough pixels? they prefer 1024 wide or above)
4/ To add it here in my asymmetric double-tail what-if topic, I reduced it to 400 pixels wide, and added a very quickly made twin (bad with an awful central wing I agree, but this one was not proposed to M.A.P., just trying to link in 2 minutes my asymmetric An124 to this twin-tail forum)
5/ I wrote a reply to this topic including this little double picture
So, the fact that I could have improved the twin has no relation to the rejection that had occured before it was even considered. OK?
 
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« Reply #42 on: December 07, 2006, 08:29:22 PM »

ohhh, you have perfect english, i just had a bad day. My school aranges 1 week visits to our perhaps future workplace. I chose flightmechanic. Of course, i had the choice of either Air Alpha in odense airport, who flyies and maintaines helicopters. Other possiblity was the air force. I chose air alpha. Then 2 weeks before going there, i am told that those who chose the air force get a flight in an F-16!!!!

I could kill myself!!!!! :dum:  :dum:  :dum:  :dum:  :dum:  :dum:  :dum:  
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« Reply #43 on: December 09, 2006, 09:18:07 AM »

Dear, don't kill yourself Sad : instead, violently punish angry  this stupid fate by drawing us a Twin-F-16 (asymmetric if possible for this topic).
Here is a first one (half FSW), you can do better…

(thanks to http://www.vectorsite.net/avf16_2.html )
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« Reply #44 on: December 10, 2006, 03:09:07 PM »

nono, i wont kill myself!

Hmmm, that assymetric F-16 is a the thing I'm not allowed to say, especially with a broken thumb.
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