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Tophe
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Double Z Mirage IIICZ
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January 20, 2006, 06:12:19 PM »
In an old box of P-38J 1/32 (that I may finish 26 years after starting…), I have found an old Matchbox 1/72 Mirage IIIC, finished, with surprising colours. I am almost sure this is unreal, with a 3-tone dark-blue camo that cannot be understood on planet Earth nor in the clouds…
I built it when I was probably 13 years old, painted silver with French roundels, then painted it again the next year, like it is now. Funny memories… I was already a what-if modeller, yes.
The roundels were the South-African ones included by Matchbox for the IIICZ version (JMN’s aspect at
http://modelingmadness.com/contests/frcnts.../JohnH48M3C.jpg
, photograph at
http://images.opentopia.com/enc/thumb/173/...irage_IIICZ.jpg
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January 20, 2006, 06:12:57 PM »
Well, this is the twin-tail forum, and the Z in CZ MUST now mean Zwilling…
Here we go: Mirage IIIC Zwilling
The 3 roundels on wings (6 with below?) and 4 on sides (8 with opposite?) are funny, now that I build my models with zero anywhere…
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January 21, 2006, 05:13:25 AM »
Gotta love Mirages. Nice work Tophe! I absolutely MUST get a Mirage III soon....just so sexy!
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January 21, 2006, 06:40:43 AM »
I agree the old Mirage is a gorgeous beauty
, somehow better than the modern big-nose 2000
, while I prefer the long nose 5BA
to the III
. Heller made a wonderful 1/72 kit
(still available:
http://www.hannants.co.uk/search/?FULL=HE80323
): in the same box, you could build either IIIE, IIIR, 5BA…
For Christmas 2004, I got a lovely caricature of the Mirage 5BA ^_^ , coded 5XT (like X.Toff, Christ.Tophe
), and imagining what it would be, I had played with my computer, playing with beauty ^_^ , see below.
Up: Normal Mirage 5BA
Middle: Compacted Mirage 5BA
Below : Truncated Mirage 5BA
The Mistel-Mirage
linking my dreams is a (temporary or not) vertical twin-tail design, matching this forum focus…
While you may count the “delta with fin” as “tail-less” (like the XP-56 with fin could be seen as a tail-less flying wing), that’s a matter of personal opinion...
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February 07, 2006, 04:48:22 AM »
Reading Thorvic’s new topic (
http://www.whatifmodelers.com/forum//index...?showtopic=8752
) title, I was shivering and smiling
: a Mirage IV Zwilling? Of course AZ was meaning South-Africa there like for the JMNs’
Mirage F-1AZ (Easy to remember: A for South, Z for Africa… No, I imagine more simply: in French, South Africa is Afrique du Sud, AS, and in English you cannot say an expensive plane is flying like an AS-hole…
so AS was turned AZ!
Yes?). Well, as far as I am concerned, I have turned the Afrique du Zud into African Zwilling…:
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February 12, 2006, 06:45:38 AM »
Thanks to Thomas Troestler, great caricaturist of
http://www.desinaero.fr.st/
*, I add here a French Mirage-IIICD (for C-Double), another way to mix twinning and caricature...
* : nice site for Mustangs/Mirages/F-14/15/16/Su27 caricatures, click on "English version here" if needed!
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February 13, 2006, 05:41:43 PM »
Quote
Thanks to Thomas Troestler, great caricaturist of
http://www.desinaero.fr.st/
Still from this lovely site, here is an asymmetric Zwilling of mine: Mirage iviiic (or 43C...): cartoon-4 as port fuselage, cartoon-3C as starboard
. Cute!!!
of course, my opposite, disliking asymmetry and twin-tails, is allowed to see a triplex fuselage here: starboard 3C, central 4, port 3C…
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February 20, 2006, 05:19:48 AM »
Quote
Thanks to Thomas Troestler, great caricaturist of
http://www.desinaero.fr.st/
Still from this nice site, let me present you our Mirage Zwilling family: in the F-1 cartoon branch, Walt-Disney’s Rescuers Bernard and Bianca (aged 1/48 of total life including Heaven) had a son: Christophe (myself, now aged 1/72), and we are flying closely linked to one another, with our two tails… This is the true story of the F-1B+C, I swear. ^_^
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March 02, 2006, 08:20:15 PM »
my first what if was a USAF draken, also a delta.
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March 10, 2006, 04:42:21 AM »
The SAAB Draken (and the later F-16XL, that could be nice in Swedish colours) are mentioned as “double-delta” (thin tall delta inside a sharp short delta), and my Mirage-Zwilling are just another way of “double-delta” (side by side)… Glory to all double-deltas!
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March 10, 2006, 01:29:04 PM »
Another one: Mirage 2000Z it seems…
(thanks to
http://personal1.iddeo.es/aviacion/fotos/mirage(1).jpg
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April 08, 2006, 06:06:05 AM »
And from the site
http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~rajwar/pictures/pl...es/mirage_1.jpg
about Indian Mirage 2000s, we must admit there is also a vertical triplex-Mistel-Mirage… It seems this is 1/72 above 1/48 above 1/32, from a modeller-engineer like our dear Evan, but I am not sure, this may be perspective…
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April 09, 2006, 07:39:01 AM »
Thanking Deino/Archibald for revealing us the Mirage 6000 of 1969 (see the topic
http://www.whatifmodelers.com/forum//index...?showtopic=9681
), I am presenting the Mirage 6000M of 2006, M standing for Mis-à-jour (Updated): one more Zwilling Mirage, coded as 4000+2000=6000 (the other considered code being Mirage iviiim as IV+III Mis à jour)…
(thanks to
http://www.faqs.org/docs/air/avmir2k3.gif
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April 18, 2006, 03:23:05 PM »
As suggested by Archie, I add the head of the zwilling-delta family: the Twin-Concorde…
(thanks to
http://www.the-palace.freeserve.co.uk/avia...0to%20Basel.jpg
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PS. You’ll tell me: “hey! why are the 2 noses going down, only one crew need to see the runway!!!”.
I will smile and explain: Ing. Photopaint (the Canadian cousin of Ing. PhotoShop) told me that there would be an awful aerodynamic balance if one nose is bent down while the other stay straight, so the 2 noses go down, for the pilots (as needed for safety) and for first class passengers in the other fuselage (as enjoyed for fun). OK? ^_^
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April 18, 2006, 03:57:56 PM »
man, what a ride that would be...having a first class ticket in the front seat of that !
Great stuff, Tophe
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