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« Reply #30 on: April 26, 2006, 05:13:30 AM »

There is a (poorly known) link between Twin-Mirage and Twin-Pantom:

You probably have read that the Dassault Mirage was a cheap alternative when the McDonnell Phantom was the best fighter available. Then, thanks to Archibald, you have read that the McDonnell staff tried to sell a Twin-Phantom, in several considered versions. But... they were not as efficient as the Twin-Mirage, so they tried a simple Double-Delta:

(Where are the jet exhausts? Ventral of course, below the wing trailing edge)
As nobody bought this plane, no Copyright was paid to Dassault (and no trial occurred for illegal copy).
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« Reply #31 on: April 26, 2006, 02:27:49 PM »

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ça pourrait être marrant d'acheter deux kit de Mirage F1 de Heller, de les "souder" par l'aile et l'empennage, puis de boucher un de des deux cockpits... ca aurait de la gueule!
Well, out of the twin-delta subject but still in the Twin-Mirage one is this Mirage FF-1 suggested by dear Archibald but in 2-seat version:

« Why are there 2 devices to get fuel ? ! » will ask the innocent. Well, this is a plane of the French air force, so the main need is to get wine, and in case the port pilot is a Southerner while the starboard one is a Northerner, there must be separate filling (without any mixing) of Vin-de-Bordeaux and Champagne. Simply.
[Thanks to http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Han...9/mirage-f1.jpg ]
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« Reply #32 on: April 26, 2006, 03:20:32 PM »

Formidable!!! Reste plus qu'a faire ca en kit... hélas, Money doesn't grows on three (elle pourrait faire un effort,la money ca m'arrangerait!!!) Tongue  
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French Soldier: Of course not. You're English types.
King Arthur: What are you then?
French Soldier: I'm French. Why do you think I have this outrageous accent, you silly king?

Well regardless I would rather take my chance out there on the ocean, that to stay here and die on this poo-hole island spending the rest of my life talking to a gosh darn VOLLEYBALL.
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« Reply #33 on: April 29, 2006, 05:06:23 PM »

And here is the AMD-BA Mirajuar BD-BD (Avions Marcel-Dassault Bréguet-Aviation Mirage-Jaguar Bras-Dessus Bras-Dessous): a nice little Zwilling model that could have been built to celebrate the 1971 wedding of the societies AMD (Mirage) and BA (Jaguar)… I have linked/glued them today, with a slight delay: 35 years Cheesy

They are 1/72 Heller kits I built in 1990 or 91, and it was stupid to have painted them the same without making them even closer… I have not truncated to make a perfect link, sanded, cause I would have a new paint to make, and in case the colour has slightly changed, all would have to be painted again, and I was afraid for the canopy frames… So the Mirage has his starboard wing over the Jaguar’s port (like an arm over shoulders…) and the Jaguar has her port tailplane tip over the Mirage’s starboard one (like an arm around waist). This is not twin sisterhood, this is tender love…
This is not depraved group-love between 4 individuals (there are 4 seats...), they are simply 2 birds with 2 eyes each, OK? Wink
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« Reply #34 on: May 06, 2006, 10:47:25 AM »

Thanks to http://www.vectorsite.net/avmirf1_2.png I am glad to present the intermediate step between the asymmetric Zwillings Mirage 3/4 and 2000/4000: the Mirage F1/2…
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« Reply #35 on: May 07, 2006, 12:11:56 PM »

Genial!!! I didn't have a glance on its thread for some days, but Tophe imagination is still in full swing... nice twin-planes!
 
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Well regardless I would rather take my chance out there on the ocean, that to stay here and die on this poo-hole island spending the rest of my life talking to a gosh darn VOLLEYBALL.
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« Reply #36 on: May 28, 2006, 03:28:21 PM »

Of course, with the Twin-Mirage 4000 and Twin-Milan, comes the Twin-Kfir-C2 (C22).
What are the Hebraic words for Twin-Kfir?

(from http://www.freefalcon.com/New%20planes%20f...ml_5121c3d1.jpg )
PS. There is no political/religious opinion in my picture: I do not mean this would be a warplane of the good side or of the bad side (according to the Bible or else the Coran), for me this is just a double-bird in a peaceful dreamy sky…
 
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« Reply #37 on: May 28, 2006, 03:41:35 PM »

and here is the imaginative Mistel version of the Twin-Kfir:

 
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« Reply #38 on: May 30, 2006, 11:38:07 AM »

Preview of the model announced by Radish ( http://www.whatifmodelers.com/forum//index...showtopic=10598 ): another harmonious double-delta like the Twin-Concorde: Zwilling-Vulcan. cheesy

(thanks to http://personal1.iddeo.es/aviacion/interes/Vulcan.jpg )
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« Reply #39 on: June 08, 2006, 04:35:11 AM »

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I have discovered caricatures that I did not know yet, put on the Web in 2003-2004, made by TinTin, featured at http://miguel21.free.fr (then click on “Croquis”) with hundreds of lovely other planes (F-16, He219, Me262B, Mirages, etc)…
So here are some of the lovely Cartoon-Mirages, Zwillinged into Mirage IIIS² and 2000C²...
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« Reply #40 on: June 09, 2006, 04:26:03 AM »

If you twin Double-Delta planes like the F-16XL, becoming F-16XL², it seems the central wing is the same as on a twinning of Simple-Delta. So 2+2=1+1=2… somehow.

(thanks to http://www.vectorsite.net/avf16_2.html )
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« Reply #41 on: June 09, 2006, 04:43:58 AM »

As this is a Mirage topic more than a delta-wing topic, I should have focused on the poorly known Mirage 2000XL, and its cousin the Double-Mirage 2000XL²:
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« Reply #42 on: July 02, 2006, 01:16:33 PM »

Changing furniture, I have today discovered again a Mirage IIID (1/72 conversion on Heller basis, by Graphyair? with an 'improved' what-if nose of mine) I built in the late 1980s… I immediately glued it to my other delta Mirage, into a special Mirage 2003D Zwilling of my own, minimising the required room on the shelf and adding a what-if smile… Cheesy
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« Reply #43 on: July 03, 2006, 11:53:46 PM »

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I immediately glued it to my other delta Mirage, into a special Mirage 2003D Zwilling of my own, minimising the required room on the shelf and adding a what-if smile… Cheesy
 
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« Reply #44 on: July 11, 2006, 04:42:42 AM »

Here is another half-cartoon Double-Mirage 2002: Smiley
 
(thanks to http://gaubs.free.fr/-PROFILS-/Mirage2000.jpg )
alas impossible in plastic, without huge scratchbuild abilities... Sad
 
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